APRILIA TUONO V4 1100 FACTORY (2019 - 2020) Review

Highlights

  • Still among the best super nakeds
  • Wonderful chassis and engine
  • New semi-active electronic suspension

At a glance

Owners' reliability rating: 4.9 out of 5 (4.9/5)
Annual servicing cost: £260
Power: 173 bhp
Seat height: Medium (32.5 in / 825 mm)
Weight: Medium (461 lbs / 209 kg)

Prices

New N/A
Used £10,300 - £11,500

Overall rating

Next up: Ride & brakes
5 out of 5 (5/5)

With the latest Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory, the Italian firm have somehow managed to improve the un-improvable super naked with new semi-active suspension.

For the most part it’s not a big leap forward over the old machine’s brilliant mechanical Öhlins, but at the extreme ends of fast and relaxed riding it comes into its own, providing extra comfort and support when you need it. Read the story of its development here.

It costs a chunk more than the old bike, but the extra isn’t going to make much of a difference to a machine at this price level. More than ever, this Aprilia Tuono is the most impressive sportsbike money can buy with unrivalled performance and refinement. Epic doesn’t come close to covering it.

Watch: Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory video review

Once you've read this review and our owners' reviews, you might want to join an online community to speak to likeminded owners. We'd recommend Aprilia Forum is a great place to start. 

This bike replaced the 2017 Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory.

Ride quality & brakes

Next up: Engine
5 out of 5 (5/5)

The Tuono V4 1100 Factory is basically an Aprilia RSV4 fitted with motocross bars and pumped full of midrange. It howls like MotoGP missile and goes like a superbike, but with its upright stance and tourer-like wind protection you don’t have to suffer with crushed wrists and a sore back for your speed. Put simply, it’s the best road-going sportsbike money can buy.

Eye-watering cost aside, there isn’t a single thing you’d want to change. The Tuono ticks every must-have box for the discerning thrill seeker: a brain-fizzing 1077cc, 173bhp V4 motor blessed by the gods of grunt and power and an exquisite polished aluminium, three-times WSB championship-winning chassis.

Aprilia’s wonder machine can be calm and relaxed one minute and a speed-crazed psychopath the next with its front wheel dangling in mid-air for all eternity. Perfect engine, electronics and ergonomics aside, the Tuono V4 1100 Factory is even more impressive in the corners with a supple, Öhlins magic carpet-ride that offers up just enough in the way of plushness and control. The way it rolls into corners, pumping your body with feel and confidence, borders on the spiritual.

Riding the Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory

It’s hard to imagine how the Tuono V4 1100 Factory could be improved, but Aprilia reckon it can with its new semi-active Öhlins ‘Smart EC 2.0 System’, similar to what adorns the Ducati Panigale V4 S and the latest Yamaha R1M, which adds a grand to the price.

Look closely and you’ll see a suspension setting icon on the Aprilia’s colour dash and wires sprouting from the tops of the Öhlins NIX forks, TTX rear shock and steering damper. Subtle graphics tweaks aside, there are no other changes from the previous model.

For normal riding conditions the semi active suspension doesn’t make a big difference. The old model’s mechanically adjustable forks and shock were hard to fault anyway, but the new electronics are worth their weight in Öhlins gold outside those ‘one setting fits all’ situations where you want extra comfort, grip, or control.

With the ability to choose between soft, medium or hard suspension set-ups, you’ve now got the mouth-watering proposition of having multiple Tuonos in one, perfect for any scenario – smooth and bumpy roads, motorway cruising and flat-out track riding.

Electronically controlled suspension on the Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory

At the Aprilia’s 2019 spring launch in the mountains of the Italian Dolomites we settle on the stiffly-set A1 mode. It gives the Tuono the kind of grip, poise and agility that few machines this side of a race paddock can get close to.

Aprilia reckons that on its semi active Öhlins the new Tuono can lap Mugello half a second faster than last year’s bike. That might not sound much, but that’s with suspension set with the touch of a button and not inched to the perfect setting after day’s testing.

Elsewhere, it’s hard not to be gushing about the Tuono V4 1100 Factory. That moorish V4 engine, flawless up/down quickshifter, savage braking power, unshakable grip and wailing soundtrack all serve to make the Aprilia an unbridled joy at any speed. Footpegs could be too high for some, but that’s about all you can find fault with.

Engine

Next up: Reliability
5 out of 5 (5/5)

A modern-day miracle, Aprilia’s compact V4 is unchanged for this 2019 model. No engine delivers such a perfect blend of searing power, sophistication, character and growling drama.

Reliability & build quality

Next up: Value
3 out of 5 (3/5)

There’s little doubt the Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory is exceptional, but whether you’d actually have the confidence to buy one is another matter.

MCN’s online pages are crammed with polarised Tuono owners’ opinions - some have nothing but praise for their bikes and dealers and some don’t. Aprilia need to sort this out because they make two of the best bikes on the planet and deserve to do well.

We've currently got one 2019 Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory owners' review on the site, and it scores a full 5 stars.

Value vs rivals

Next up: Equipment
3 out of 5 (3/5)

The 2019 Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory isn’t cheap, but it justifies its price hike over the old model for the versatility the new electronic suspension brings, but if you know how to set up your own suspension, it’s not a big step on from the old bike.

Its main rivals are the other super naked bikes currently on sale, such as the Ducati Streetfighter V4 S, KTM 1290 Super Duke R, Yamaha MT-10 SP and Kawasaki Z H2

Other, less extreme, options to consider also include the Honda CB1000RKawasaki Z1000Suzuki GSX-S1000, and standard Yamaha MT-10.


Super naked group test video: KTM 1290 Superduke R vs Kawasaki Z H2 vs Ducati Streetfighter V4 vs Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory vs Yamaha MT-10 SP

Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory vs KTM 1290 Super Duke R

Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory vs KTM 1290 Super Duke R

We put the Aprilia around the MCN 250 test route to see how the two compare back-to-back on UK roads. Jump on the Aprilia and it feels slightly dated in comparison. The KTM’s bolder, brighter, fresher dash makes the Tuono’s seem small and busy, the Italian’s switchgear buttons are fussy and unlike the KTM it doesn’t even have an adjustable clutch lever.

The Tuono might have a less chunky, bulldog-like feel to it, but oh my word, when it barks into life and takes you on a journey, gliding on a bed of Öhlins and sticky Pirelli opulence, it’s clear just how right Aprilia got the basics when the RSV4 first appeared in 2009.

Much of the Tuono’s brilliance is down to its magnificent V4 engine. It’s longer-legged, revvier and more involving than the KTM’s polished V-twin, but it still has plenty of bottom-end grunt and a bombastic midrange. It’s a motor happy to reward lazy riding or let you hammer up and down the gears – this is, after all, a thinly disguised superbike. But no matter how you ride, the fuelling couldn’t be smoother or the soundtrack more addictive: wailing like a MotoGP racer on the throttle - popping and crackling off it. 

Pegs are high for ground clearance, but not cramped and the seat nicely padded. Many would say it’s cheating for a super-naked to have a hint of fairing, but more fool Aprilia’s rivals for not doing the same. In any case, with its wide bars and minimal plastics it still feels exposed and more alive than a race replica, but your head and neck will thank you for the extra protection on long, high-speed blasts.

You can count on one hand the production bikes (Triumph Speed Triple RS, RSV4 1100 Factory, Panigale V4 range and KTM 890 Duke R) that ride UK road surfaces so exquisitely, have such feelgood front ends, or are so solid at full lean.

Having a WSB-winning aluminium chassis does the Tuono no harm, nor do its trackday tyres or semi-active suspension, although the older mechanically adjustable Öhlins tracked just as confidently.

It would be churlish to say that the KTM doesn’t handle as well because it really does and its mechanically adjustable WP set-up is impressive, but its front-end can get fidgety on less than supremely smooth roads.

More than anything it highlights the advantages of the Aprilia’s electronic suspension, designed to give the perfect ride in all conditions, as opposed to the conditions sometimes suiting the suspension (the case on most bikes).

As with the KTM, the Tuono’s Brembos are uber-powerful, full of feel and free from ABS intrusion. The quickshifter, blipper, anti-wheelie and traction control are all smooth and add rather than detract from the enjoyment of riding, too. Both machines have cruise control to make motorway riding and keeping to speed limits easier and while both have lots of rider modes to choose from, the Aprilia’s character changes the most with its suspension morphing from hard to soft.

Both the Tuono and Super Duke have the performance to satisfy the hunger of the most dedicated sportsbike souls. They’ll both stealth happily through town and can be loaded up for a big tour, which you can do on a superbike, but it’s so much easier and more comfortable on a super-naked machine like these two.

Both the KTM and Aprilia are surprisingly close in the way they go about their business. Neither have headline-grabbing bhp figures, but they produce mountains of usable torque thanks to their characterful V-shaped engines.

The Super Duke has a more modern feel, but they’re both generously equipped, are similarly priced, comfortable and easy to get on with, making them more than just trackday blasters.

The KTM has taken a step-up in refinement, which is why it’s the best of the new 2020 super-nakeds, but the Aprilia just edges it. Its big V4 is crisper, louder and more visceral, it has a more supple ride, feeling of grip and better wind protection.

They’re the reasons the Tuono V4 1100 Factory has been so hard to beat after all these years and it’s just proven itself again.

Equipment

5 out of 5 (5/5)

Aprilia’s traction control, wheelie control and an up/down quickshifter are some of the best in the business. You also get riding modes, launch control, a pitlane limiter and cruise control, as well as top notch Brembos and Pirelli Super Corsa SP rubber.

Semi active rebound and compression damping are adjusted by stepper motors inside the Öhlins forks and shock, based on road and wheel speeds, lean angle, rider aids intervention and IMU readings. Preload is still mechanically adjustable.

The TFT colour dash remains unchanged, except for a new suspension setting icon, which shows which of the three automatic or manual modes you’re in. Go deeper into the menu and fine tune to perfection in semi-active or manual modes.

Specs

Engine size 1077cc
Engine type Liquid-cooled, 16v V4
Frame type Aluminium twin spar
Fuel capacity 18.5 litres
Seat height 825mm
Bike weight 209kg
Front suspension Öhlins NIX 43mm forks, semi active damping, mechanically adjustable proload
Rear suspension Öhlins TTX single shock, semi active damping, mechanically adjustable preload
Front brake 2 x 330mm discs with four-piston radial monobloc Brembo calipers. Cornering ABS
Rear brake 220mm rear disc with twin-piston caliper. Cornering ABS
Front tyre size 120/70x17
Rear tyre size 190/55x17

Mpg, costs & insurance

Average fuel consumption -
Annual road tax £117
Annual service cost £260
New price -
Used price £10,300 - £11,500
Insurance group 17 of 17
How much to insure?
Warranty term Two years

Top speed & performance

Max power 173 bhp
Max torque 89 ft-lb
Top speed 165 mph
1/4 mile acceleration -
Tank range -

Model history & versions

Model history

  • 2015: Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory replaces the old 999cc version. Chassis and electronics remain largely the same, but the new machine has a 4mm longer swingarm, grippier brake pads.
  • 2017: Updates include a Euro 4 spec motor with a 2.5kg heavier exhaust, a TFT Bluetooth enabled colour dash, new switchgear, lighter 43mm Ohlins forks and tweaked rear shock, bigger 330mm discs and Brembo radial master cylinder. More refined electronics include a new pitch/yaw sensor, up/down blipper, pitlane limiter and cruise control.
  • 2019: This version released with electronic Ohlins suspension.

Other versions

  • Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 RR  – identical engine, electronics and chassis to the factory with slightly cheaper cycle parts including Sachs suspension.

Owners' reviews for the APRILIA TUONO V4 1100 FACTORY (2019 - 2020)

10 owners have reviewed their APRILIA TUONO V4 1100 FACTORY (2019 - 2020) and rated it in a number of areas. Read what they have to say and what they like and dislike about the bike below.

Review your APRILIA TUONO V4 1100 FACTORY (2019 - 2020)

Summary of owners' reviews

Overall rating: 4.9 out of 5 (4.9/5)
Ride quality & brakes: 5 out of 5 (5/5)
Engine: 4.9 out of 5 (4.9/5)
Reliability & build quality: 4.9 out of 5 (4.9/5)
Value vs rivals: 4.7 out of 5 (4.7/5)
Equipment: 4.6 out of 5 (4.6/5)
Annual servicing cost: £260
5 out of 5 Best of rest
09 January 2022 by Filmoor

Year: 2019

Annual servicing cost: £250

If Carlsberg did road bikes!!! Definitely recommend this bike

Ride quality & brakes 5 out of 5

cannot fault perfection.

Engine 4 out of 5

My RSV100 Factory fuels and performs better

Reliability & build quality 5 out of 5

Never let me down this my 2nd Tuono V4 1100

Value vs rivals 5 out of 5

Nothing broke or worn out yet.

Equipment 4 out of 5

Quick shifter can sometimes be hesitant at mid RPM upshifts Auto blip is sublime

Buying experience: Via Moto great dealership and lucky for me very local. 3 bikes from them and the service just gets better

5 out of 5 Best Super Naked Road Bike Ever?....I think so.
11 October 2021 by Chickenlips93

Year: 2020

Annual servicing cost: £197

As many others have said, this is the best road bike I've ever owned. The engine is utterly sublime with stomping power (particularly in the mid range) loads of character and is the best sounding engine on the market in my view. With the Ackro there is little to touch it in terms of sound...maybe an R1 with a full system....but I still love the v4. The handling is excellent. There are quicker steering bikes out there but I like the slightly more progressive turn in and the associated solidity of the bike in the actual corner. The Ohlins Ec 2 suspension just adds to the experience for those who don't want to have to reset for every occasion (like me). It's still a great looking bike in my opinion and with the addition of an aftermarket carbon full length belly pan, this is improved even more. Almost nothing bad to say about the bike...but for balance I'd say it is a little clunky when picking up drive in 1st and around town, this is noticeable but once you can get on a decent road, the quick shifter and auto blipper are excellent and smooth. The brakes are also brilliant, with loads of bite and feedback. The only thing is, it does make you ride like a totally numpty...the sound, the effortless gliding wheelies, the shear hooligan nature make it the best road bike around.

Ride quality & brakes 5 out of 5

Fantastic handling and brilliant Brembo brakes. The bike is comfortable for long rides as a solo rider and I'd have no issues touring on it despite my advanced age and decrepit physic LOL. However, my wife is an exceptional pillion but she won't sit on the back of the Tuono for more than a few miles to the pub and back...definitely a solo ride in her view.

Engine 5 out of 5

Everything about this engine is simply fantastic. It's everything I want from a bike engine...powerful, urgent delivery with blistering mid range, sounds like the gods of war...I could go on.

Reliability & build quality 4 out of 5

I've not had any problems at all BUT as much as I love this bike, I have to be honest and say the Ducati Streetfighter has the edge on overall build quality and finish in my view. I test rode them back to back and the Ducati has that quality engineering feel about it...sitting on the bike looking down at it gives you that special feeling. However, the Ducati is literally twice the price with the Ackro fitted and the Tuono is slightly more fun and more engaging to ride fast in my view, so it was a no brainer in the end, Tuono ins the day...just.

Value vs rivals 5 out of 5

The 6k miles service was £197.50 at On Yer Bike Aylesbury (my local dealer). The main costly items are Tyres...a rear is only lasting between 1400-1700 miles and I've also had to replace the front pads in the first 6k service...so it adds up if you're using the bike as intended.

Equipment 4 out of 5

The electronics are generally really excellent but I do have 3 niggles that I don't like. 1 - the toggle switch to access the various settings is fiddly and annoying, to the point of almost useless when you're riding along. It's just as well Aprilia thought to have the paddle button to change the traction control on the hop. The screen and information display is a little small and hard to read (especially when riding) but I think Aprilia have done a better job with the 2021 dash. Lastly and most annoying is the combination of traction control and anti-wheelie. With anti Wheelie off but a low Traction Control setting (1 or 2) the bike will wheelie like crazy (as I hoped) BUT if/when the Traction Control cuts in, it's extreme and slams the bike back down with such force that I'll not be having an more children and may need to buy a new tank if you get my drift. I was hoping it would be less intrusive and more subtle.

Buying experience: I bought over the internet to find the best deal. This is the first time I've every bought a bike without viewing it first (obviously I test rode one first but at a different show room). It was scarily easy. I just paid a £99 deposit and the bike was delivered to my door 3 days later. Brilliant...but could become habit forming eh. VIA Moto were really good and easy to deal with. They also do amazing deals.

5 out of 5
18 August 2021 by Kadz

Version: Factory

Year: 2019

Great bike

Ride quality & brakes 5 out of 5
Engine 5 out of 5
Reliability & build quality 5 out of 5
Value vs rivals 5 out of 5
Equipment 5 out of 5
5 out of 5 V4 power
13 August 2021 by Peter radford

Year: 2020

Annual servicing cost: £300

Worst feature is fuel range and lack of fuel gauge. Best is the noise and performance of the v4 engine, and the best gearbox of any bike I've ever ridden

Ride quality & brakes 5 out of 5
Engine 5 out of 5
Reliability & build quality 5 out of 5

No problems at all

Value vs rivals 4 out of 5
Equipment 5 out of 5

Buying experience: Bought from M&Ps fantastic service and aftercare

5 out of 5 Brilliant sports naked
12 June 2021 by DaveD

Year: 2020

Sublime handling and suspension with phenomenal brakes, the anti rear wheel lift under maximum braking gives outstanding stability on track when testing my limits. Engine power delivery and quickshifter make for deceptively quick acceleration to the next corner.....hence why I’ve found out how good the brakes are :)

Ride quality & brakes 5 out of 5

Active suspension is great for any road and the option of manual settings for specific tracks if doing trackdays means you can tailor it to exactly what you want....brilliant!

Engine 5 out of 5

Smooth, powerful and oooh that glorious sound

Reliability & build quality 5 out of 5

Well built with quality parts but I haven’t owned it long enough to confirm reliability

Value vs rivals 4 out of 5

Good value considering the performance and build quality

Equipment 3 out of 5

Love the quickshifter (best in class), dash is easy to read and use, disappointed no dual gauge or heated grips?

5 out of 5 The best production bike ever made?
07 April 2021 by Thunderstruck

Year: 2019

Annual servicing cost: £300

Best features: The sound and power delivery of the engine coupled with the top of the range electronic suspension makes it the best bike I have ever ridden. The bike is comfortable to ride and the screen does a great job at keeping the wind off you on motorways.Worst features: The pillion seat is unusable, the turning circle is the worst I have ever encountered, and the mpg is not great (but what do you expect from a superbike?)

Ride quality & brakes 5 out of 5

I like my bikes to do it all and the Tuono does this in style. You can commute, tour, track day - the lot. It's not meant to go off road of course, but aside from that is amazing. The handling is simply astonishing - you cannot get anywhere near the bike's limit on the road. I can ride all day with no aches or pains whatsoever (5' 11'', mid 40s in average shape).

Engine 5 out of 5

The best engine ever made. It sounds like thunder. I came from twenty odd years of inline fours and this is better than any of them. Above 4k rpm, the power delivery is so, so smooth you need to keep a close eye on your speed. I also test rode a Panigale for the fun of it and its V4 can't compare to the Aprilia's in terms of midrange or sound.

Reliability & build quality 5 out of 5

The components are top notch and it appears very well built. I have only done 1200 miles on the bike so far but no problems.

Value vs rivals 5 out of 5

Value or running costs don't always mean the same! The V4 engine is thirsty (I get around 35-37mpg) but the sound and power delivery mean you get what you pay for. I've made my mind up to go electric after the Tuono goes in the (distant) future - a petrol driven motor simply cannot get any better. I know some riders wear the tyres out fast but I am fairly smooth and have 3500 miles on the original set. The v4 engine is complex and the 12k service is expensive as it involves valve checks. Some owners on the forums suggest getting the valves checked earlier (6-8k) just to make sure everything is ok which I may do.

Equipment 5 out of 5

I test rode the Factory then the RR to see if I could save myself some cash. The RR is a great bike and the Sachs front/rear suspension is fine but cannot compete with the semi-active Ohlins for smoothing out the roads. If I had bought the RR, I would have swapped out the steering damper which is poor (the Factory has an Ohlins electronic damper) which was the decider for me to go for the Factory.I put on an Aprilia-approved carbon fibre Akrapovic (and required remap) on the bike (£750 fitted). It looks miles better and makes the remap makes the bike feel a little more urgent. It definitely sounds great but (and I never thought I'd say this - must be getting old), it is very loud... If this is an issue, maybe go for the Titanium version.The bike came with the V4-MP app which allows you to get call notifications to the dashboard. Most other functions seem to be for track days. I think it costs £150 or so for a dealer to put it on as unlike the RSV4, the bike does not come with it pre-installed.The quickshifter is super smooth above 5k rpm. The manual says you can use it under this, but the gearbox is clearly not happy so I don't. I have had no problems with reliability but a 2 year warranty extension from a dealer cost around £500 for my own peace of mind.The bike is comfortable so I plan to tour on it. The tiny pillion seat is pretty much useless for taking anyone on the back or strapping luggage to it. As such, I bought a Hepco and Becker sports rack which seems the way to go.I still have the standard tyres on it (Pirelli Diablos). They are very good in the dry. When they swap out, I'll put on a more sporty all rounder to give more confidence in the wet (I always liked Metzeler M7RRs so will try the new M9RRs). By the way, the bike doesn't have a rain mode but you don't need it as you can just increase the TC up to max.

Buying experience: I bought the bike (one year old with just under 2000 miles on the clock) from a dealer for £12k delivered. It came with the standard exhaust so expect to pay more for a bike with an Aprilia approved Akrapovic and ECU remap. Gone are the days where you could whack any old pipe on a performance bike like this.

4 out of 5
29 March 2021 by Wiggi28

Year: 2019

Fiddly switch gear when on the move

Ride quality & brakes 5 out of 5

Simply sublime

Engine 5 out of 5

Goes as good as it sounds

Reliability & build quality 5 out of 5

Faultless so far

Value vs rivals 5 out of 5

Not cheap but top level stuff never is

Equipment 5 out of 5

Great spec but could have a more simplified operation

5 out of 5 F.....g brilliant bike......go buy one
13 January 2021 by J Mckean

Version: Factory...dark thunder version.subtle black/grey bike with additional carbon

Year: 2020

Absolutely epic bike, thought about buying one in 2017 but never got round to testing it. Big regrets. Made up for it now though

Ride quality & brakes 5 out of 5

Brilliant nothing else to.say

Engine 5 out of 5

F.....g brilliant .....what else can you say

Reliability & build quality 5 out of 5

Road bike from Nottingham to Scotland on day of pick up no issues, first service no issues. At 2000 miles no issues. No rattles squeaks or creaks... Build quality tip notch even the fixings are good quality

Value vs rivals 5 out of 5

Had to out 5 stars as I didn't buy it for economy, but riding progressively managed 132 miles out a tank.... You get it singing and up and down with the quick shift/autoblipper then that went down to 98.....but who cares....when the petrol light comes on.... definitely fill up

Equipment 5 out of 5

Heated grips would be nice for touring but no deal breaker, shame you can't get a Givi tanklock ring for the petrol cap for a tank bag....

Buying experience: Bought from Teasdale's.... brilliant service

5 out of 5 The business
04 September 2020 by Morts

Year: 2020

Best features, electronics,handling, well everything really. Haven’t found any negatives yet

Ride quality & brakes 5 out of 5

Brakes- the best. Very comfortable, great riding position, and not as much wind noise as my previous bike

Engine 5 out of 5

What an engine, runs hot in traffic, but bearable

Reliability & build quality 5 out of 5

Excellent build quality, nothing failed upto now

Value vs rivals 4 out of 5

It’s a sports bike engine, so mpg is what you would expect

Equipment 5 out of 5

Akrapovic exhaust, is the nuts

Buying experience: Got mine from direct motorcycles, great px and customer service

5 out of 5 under estimated machine
29 June 2020 by robert mulholland

Version: factory

Year: 2020

what a machine traded in a ducati v4s for this after contacting the mcn editor michael was a bit worried i done the wrong thing as i was getting rid of a powerfull machine how wrong i was

Ride quality & brakes 5 out of 5

fantastic sitting up you have so much control just falls into corners

Engine 5 out of 5

love it so much low down torque

Reliability & build quality 5 out of 5

nothing yet as just purchased

Value vs rivals 5 out of 5
Equipment 5 out of 5

got an akrapovic with the bike sound brilliant

Buying experience: from via moto no problems at all great to deal with

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